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China spent more on chipmaking equipment than South Korea, Taiwan, and the U.S. combined — $25B in investments in the first half of the year | Tom's Hardware (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (16 children)

China started their high-speed rail network by buying German trains, today their trains are faster than Germany's and their rail network is more extensive and cheaper.

They're investing in education, every step of the supply chain, and their chip companies, and bringing in foreign experts and equipment to fill in any gaps. That's how you get an advanced semiconductor industry.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Even the US outsources various parts of chip manufacturing. If it's as simple as high-speed rail, the US can and will do it by themselves.

But it's not. China has no chance of winning the US by this way. Only possible way I would say is to steal technologies and that's what they're doing as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If it’s as simple as high-speed rail, the US can and will do it by themselves.

It's been decades, if the US was capable of building a high speed rail network, they would have done it. We tried and failed. There's 3 HSR lines, one of which doesn't even average 60 miles an hour, but theoretically could do 180 if it wasn't for the highways and NIMBYs.

Edit: There is 1 HSR line, the one in California is still being planned, and the brightline isn't HSR.

China has no chance of winning against the US by this way

Every year they close the gap by spending hundreds of billions on schools and infrastructure, while we spend hundreds of billions on prisons and bombs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Less incentive for high-speed rail is the issue not that they can't pull it off. It's not state of the art technology at this point.

I get that you have something to say about the US in general but I'm strictly talking about HSR and chip fab. China will never going to succeed on this chip war unless they steal all the shit that the US, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and many European countries been r&d-ing for decades and even then, it'll make no sense financially to have them all.

Also don't forget the fact that all the brightest minds on this face of the Earth is flying to the US while China desperately try to piss every one else off. That certainly doesn't help China too.

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