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Chat control is back on the agenda again and the works is kept in secret.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (26 children)

First they obliterate telegram (most likely the only ones that would not comply and still offer service in Europe, Facebook and Apple would just comply, Signal would drop Europe) and a few days later they restart talks on this.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Telegram isn't in trouble because they are a ""private"" messenger because 1) they aren't and 2) they basically asked for it. They are hosting pirates, drug dealers and scammers and they refuse government requests for the data they have about the user. That is the issue: not complying with data requests. For example, signal, a truly secure messenger, will comply with data requests and will send the authorities everything they have about a user, which is really not that much to begin with. This whole Telegram story is absolutely unrelated to chat control

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I beg to differ - meta both facebook and Instagram have loads of issue with crimes like human trafficking, pornography including the revenge one, scams and even live streams of rapes.

Every time you try to report scams or even impersonating anybody they reply "it doesn't violate community standards"

Is Zuckerberger being accused of human, sex , pedophilia and drugs trafficking

https://www.firstpost.com/world/instagram-enabled-paedophiles-to-find-child-pornography-prey-on-children-12707612.html

https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/instagram-pedophile-network-child-pornography-researchers-1235635743/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/07/meta-instagram-self-generated-child-sexual-abuse-materials

Of course it is about chat control. American companies do allow sniffing the traffic, "the russian" telegram doesn't allow sniffing.

That's the only reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes there m illegal things on social media, but they are not public group chats with hundreds of people in them sharing info on how to do x crime better. What you will mostly see on Instagram etc when it's about illegal stuff are links to those telegram channels. And yes meta/everyone else should definitely do better at moderatibg their platforms.

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