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[โ€“] [email protected] 102 points 2 months ago (27 children)

I make the investment and then don't get the return. Sounds about right for the criminals at PG&E and their paid for people in office. Time to turn them into a not for profit public institution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (20 children)

Here in europe we're gonna have to pay the electrical company for the energy our own solar panels generate above a certain amount.

"Can we just turn them off?"

"No ๐Ÿ˜ "

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where in Europe is this? Europe isn't a monolith, after all.
Here in the Netherlands we (currently) still have the "salderingsregeling" which is used to reimburse people for the solar they feed back into the grid, though that will eventually go away.

Paying people for solar on the roof is a bit tricky in general, and probably not sustainable long term:

  • The money to maintain the grid has to come from somewhere, and if a lot of people have a bill of zero euros or a negative amount, that system kind of breaks down.
  • The grid has a maximum capacity (especially in residential neighbourhoods) so you cannot pump an infinite amount of power back into the grid. If many houses in a neighbourhood have solar the grid simply cannot cope.
[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

In the Netherlands we now also have a "terugleveringstoeslag" where you have to pay a monthly fee based on the maximum peak power delivered to the grid over the year. At least, the bigger electrical companies already have it, the rest will soon follow. My coworker (who has way too many solar panels installed) got a letter from Essent that he had to pay 67 euros monthly starting October. So he switched companies, but he'll have to figure out something else next time.

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