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Scalpers Work With Hackers to Liberate Ticketmaster's ‘Non-Transferable’ Tickets (www.404media.co)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A lawsuit filed in California by concert giant AXS has revealed a legal and technological battle between ticket scalpers and platforms like Ticketmaster and AXS, in which scalpers have figured out how to extract “untransferable” tickets from their accounts by generating entry barcodes on parallel infrastructure that the scalpers control and which can then be sold and transferred to customers.

By reverse-engineering how Ticketmaster and AXS actually make their electronic tickets, scalpers have essentially figured out how to regenerate specific, genuine tickets that they have legally purchased from scratch onto infrastructure that they control. In doing so, they are removing the anti-scalping restrictions put on the tickets by Ticketmaster and AXS.

So Ticketmaster and AXS are suing to maintain their monopoly on scalping?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (16 children)

A lot of venues require events to use ticketmaster so the artists often have no choice

[+] [email protected] -23 points 4 months ago (15 children)

the. artists. always. have. a. choice. in. everything. they. do. they. could. choose. not. to. play. the. venues. unless. the. venues. divest. themselves. from. using. ticketmaster.

it all comes down to what the artists allow, they're the talent people are paying for

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (6 children)

they. could. choose. not. to. play. the. venues.

And how will they earn a living? Record, radio, and streaming pays almost nothing. Live performance is how most make their living.

Going ticketmaster-less for a tour has been tried before by a huge name at the time Pearl Jam. This was almost 30 years ago now. It just wasn't viable playing the few venues that could accept ticketmaster-less shows.

Here's part of that history:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/pearl-jam-taking-on-ticketmaster-67440/

[+] [email protected] -26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

yes, dummy

they could take the year off, they could only play smaller venues, or even larger ones that don't use tickemaster. the artists are the talent, the fault usurious ticketmaster fees falls squarely on the shoulders and in the fault of the artists allow them to pimp their tickets. the change must come from the artists refusing to work with venues that work with ticketmaster

this is not fucking rocket science

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

yes, dummy

Oh wow. I didn't realize you're not able to have an adult conversation. This is helpful information.

they could take the year off, they could only play smaller venues, or even larger ones that don’t use tickemaster.

I addressed that already, but I see my mistake wasn't using your chosen method of communication. Let me try again:

Pearl. Jam. tried. that. and. there. aren't. enough. ticketmaster-less. venues. available. that. are. large. enough. to. cover. the. costs. of. a. nation. wide. tour.

the artists are the talent

except. the. biggest. stars. the. talent. is. paid. very. little. and. has. very. little. control. over. their. performance. choices. and. they. need. to. feed. themselves. as. music. is. their. livelihood.

this is not fucking rocket science

This is business and law, and its far closer to rocket science than your elementary understanding makes it out to be. Its one thing to be ignorant of the way things work. Its yet another to stand proudly and proclaiming you don't care about being ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

the fault usurious ticketmaster fees falls squarely on the shoulders and in the fault of the artists allow them to pimp their tickets.

I would think that would fall on...you know, maybe the company imposing the fees, or the government and regulatory environment that allows it to continue to go on...but you know what? You're right; the individual artists are to blame. /s

Why don't the artists just make their own venues and start their own Ticketmaster competitor?! Surely they got into music not to try to express themselves, create art, maybe get famous, and make a living! They got into it to become venue builders, show organizers, and to be embroiled in the politics of the music industry. /s

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