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Tool preventing AI mimicry cracked; artists wonder what’s next (arstechnica.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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But just as Glaze's userbase is spiking, a bigger priority for the Glaze Project has emerged: protecting users from attacks disabling Glaze's protections—including attack methods exposed in June by online security researchers in Zurich, Switzerland. In a paper published on Arxiv.org without peer review, the Zurich researchers, including Google DeepMind research scientist Nicholas Carlini, claimed that Glaze's protections could be "easily bypassed, leaving artists vulnerable to style mimicry."

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That's the same thing. Whatever you want to call it, "copyright" or some other word, the end result is that you're wanting to give people the right to control other people's ability to analyze the things that they see on public display. And control what general concepts other people put into future works.

I really don't see how going in that direction is going to lead to a better situation than we have now. Frankly it looks more like a path to a nightmarish corporate-controlled dystopia to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

you're wanting to give people the right to control other people's ability to analyze the things that they see on public display.

For the second time, that's not what I want to do - I pretty much said so explicitly with my example.

Human studying a piece of content - fine.
Training a Machine Learning model on that content without the creator's permission - not fine.

But if you honestly think that a human learning something, and a ML model learning something are exactly the same, and should be treated as such, this conversation is pointless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Again, it's fundamentally the same thing. You're just using different tools to perform the same action.

I remember back in the day when software patents were the big boogeyman of the Internet that everyone hated, and the phrase "...with a computer" was treated with great derision. People were taking out huge numbers of patents that were basically the same as things people had been doing since time immemorial but by adding the magical "...with a computer" suffix on it they were treating it like some completely new innovation.

Suddenly we're on the other side of that?

Anyway, even if you do throw that distinction in you still end up outlawing huge swathes of things that we've depended on for years. Search engines as the most obvious example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

And that's the third time you've tried to put words into my mouth, rather than arguing my points directly.

Have fun battling your straw men, I'm out.

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