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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (42 children)

Are those two things actually important?

Electric motors are a lot more efficient, and battery technology is quickly approaching the place where you can get the same range with an electric motor as with an ICE.

As for refuel rate, I spend no time waiting for my car to charge because it charges at home while I'm sleeping, so the refuel rate doesn't matter.

Plus the technology to battery swap is well in use for electric vehicles (see Nio, who have thousands of battery swap stations in China and some in Europe too). 3 mins and you have a full battery.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (29 children)

It matters to people who drive more during the day than their range allows. They don't want to wait 20 minutes for the car to charge every time they venture 300km out and back /s

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Why do people still pretend it takes longer than 20 minutes to get a 50% charge increase?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wait, I'm confused (out of date??) I thought it took hours to charge. Has that changed?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
  1. I don't have enough charge for my trip. I'm also thirsty.

  2. I go to a grocery store with a fast charger.

  3. I buy a drink.

  4. I have enough charge.

If it's a long trip where I need more charge, I choose a car snack, and I'll have enough.

If I'm on an actual long car trip and I want to charge all the way from the warning light to 100%, I will need to eat a meal anyway. I just find a McDonald's/cafe,/restaurant/whatever with a fast charger, and it'll be full before I'm done.

But finding a store/eating place with a fast charger is still waaaay less convenient than just finding a place where I can get diesel in seconds, and find a different place to get drinks/food/snacks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fast chargers can fully charge my car (range ~400mi) in about an hour

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Most cars will charge to 80% pretty fast. 20%-70% is really fast on most.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

fast charging on modern HV battery packs will get you to 80% from 0 in like 15-20 minutes. I've seen lower, but it's really fucking usable now.

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