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[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago (29 children)

I very much think smartphones do not belong in the classroom.

That said, I also very much think that assault rifles don't belong in schools. And until we can prevent that, we can't really take away the only way for parents to figure out if their kid is dead or just traumatized.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

Are increasingly unavailable on basically any real phone plan and effectively require a dedicated purchase. Rather than giving the kid yoru old motorola you kept in the drawer.

Also, as 9-11 and other "holy shit" moments taught us, having a wide range of ways to communicate with people when EVERYONE is trying to call or even text people (SMS is a best effort protocol for a reason) is important.

Again, if we actually care about the children? Stop fucking shooting them to death. Maybe then we can figure out why they don't need to be constantly connected to everyone they know.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A Light Phone or Light phone 2 is capable of doing literally everything you need from a smart phone without the bloat and distraction. It's legitimate with most service providers as well.

There's viable options out there that aren't "flip phones".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Light phones also cost 300-800 (!?!?!) USD and aren't carried by phone providers who give people "a free upgrade" every few years.

Yes, there are the parents who buy their toddler a flagship iphone. The vast majority are just taking the phone they were totally going to recycle that has been living in the junk drawer for years and give it to their kid for emergencies and fortnite.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They can be used on each of the following carrier's: AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon (except for prepaid plans and Number Share), Ting, Mint, US Mobile.

So, I'm not sure what you mean by providers who give "free upgrades"...

It's cheaper than most smart phones and does everything you need it to do without games and social media.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The vast majority of phone providers (in the US at least, which is where this is pertinent) have heavily subsidized phones if you agree to an N-month contract. And while the price of that can come out worse, it is also a lot easier for underprivileged people to spend an extra few bucks a month for two years than to set aside that money to make the couple hundred dollar purchase (for better or for worse).

And if you are willing to actually talk to a CSR you can often get the price to pay off that phone completely negated. Which IS good if that phone plan is good for you.

To my knowledge, Light does not partner with any of the major carriers so that is not an option. So you are buying those phones, regardless.

The Internet loves to build this strawman of a first grader who has the latest top end iphone. And... some of those do exist. But mostly it is parents getting a phone either "for free" or actually for free because they agree to not leave Verizon or whatever for 2 years and giving the old one to their kid.

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