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A team of researchers from prominent universities – including SUNY Buffalo, Iowa State, UNC Charlotte, and Purdue – were able to turn an autonomous vehicle (AV) operated on the open sourced Apollo driving platform from Chinese web giant Baidu into a deadly weapon by tricking its multi-sensor fusion system, and suggest the attack could be applied to other self-driving cars.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (17 children)

https://xkcd.com/1958/

TL;DR: faking out a self-driving system is always going to be possible, and so is faking out humans. But doing so is basically attempted murder, which is why the existence of an exploit like this is not interesting or new. You could also cut the brake lines or rig a bomb to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You don't even have to rig a bomb, a better analogy to the sensor spoofing would be to just shine a sufficiently bright light in the driver's eyes from the opposite side of the road. Things will go sideways real quick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not meant to be a perfect example. It’s a comparable principle. Subverting the self-driving like that is more or less equivalent to any other means of attempting to kill someone with their car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I don't disagree, i'm simply trying to present a somewhat less extreme (and therefore i think more appealing) version of your argument

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