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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (16 children)

To any non-js dev taking this too seriously: A good half of the technologies mentioned in this meme are redundant, you only need to learn one of them (in addition to the language). It's like complaining that there are too many Linux distributions to learn: you don't, you just pick one and go with it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Part of the problem is choosing from those options (when you have a choice). Open-ended questions like that nuke my productivity when starting a project because I spend more time researching and weighing options than actually programming.

As time has gone on, I've increasingly become a fan of restricting how many ways devs can do something.

you just pick one and go with it.

Might be my ADHD, but I can never just do that. But I posit that excess choice hurts feature development pace by wasting effort on reinventing the wheel.

A good example is the Nix ecosystem:

Nix expression language provides almost no constraints, leaving users to do the same things in a bunch of ways, and preventing a clear notion of which way is generally best from arising...which makes upstream super conservative with implementing new features the community wants, because any decision might break one those things. Leaving us with a 5+ year old "experimental" feature + CLI used by 80% of users, but no consensus on an official implementation. So many simple upstream changes become a series of 3 competing community projects providing a solution for that feature, further preventing consensus.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

It's true that you can easily fall into analysis paralysis when you start learning JS, but honestly things have somewhat stabilized in recent years. 10 years ago everybody was switching frameworks every 6 months, but these days we're going on 8+ years of absolute React dominance. So I guess that's it for the view layer.

The data layer has seen some movement in more recent years with Flux then GraphQL / Relay, but I think most people have settled on either Apollo or react-query now (depending on your backend).

On the backend there was basically only express.js, and I think it's still the king if you only want to write a backend.

Static websites came back in fashion with Jekyll and Github Pages so Gatsby solved that problem in js-land for a while, but nowadays Next also fulfills that niche, along with the more fullstack-oriented apps.

Svelte, Vue, Aurelia and Mithril are mostly niche frameworks. They have a dedicated, vocal fanbase (see the Svelte guy as sibling to your comment) but most of the industry has settled along the lines I've mentioned.

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