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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (23 children)

Electric vehicles aren't helping with the transition to electric vehicles. Cars are more expensive than ever. If one has a choice between an annoyingly necessary vehicle that can get them to and from work and take care of long trips, or something that costs the same (or more) and can't even get you halfway across the state on a single charge, which would one with a limited budget pick?

I have some friends that tried to take the plunge with EV. They bought one used, so some age on the traction pack. Cold-ass winter came along, the car doesn't do active thermal management of the pack. They could barely make it 24 miles between towns. Their next car will be a hybrid. Until EVs are priced similar and behave similar to ICE cars, it's going to be a slow roll to convert people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yup can confirm. Leased a new car six month ago. Wanted to get an electric, but the downsides of electric cars just didn't make sense. Much more expensive, and worse in winter. Cheaper to charge, but not at all enough to make up the huge extra cost.

When the Chinese make a cheap ev that is better than fuel cars, it's going to become more profitable than Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Chinese are already doing that. They are way above and beyond in the advancements and got the cheap labor. It's why we don't see them it would kill the automobile industry. I'm sure they have lacking safety standards too compared to other countries, but I'm sure they'd patch that up to sell them. I read they got EVs under $30k and they have the first consumer.EV with a sodium battery; this means it's more environmental friendly since it has no lithium, it doesn't have the issue with cold weather causing lower efficiency, and it's cheaper to make.

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