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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

Yeah I don't think ByteDance has a legal ground here.

Also this coming from a Chinese company, is rich.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I'm 100% not an expert on this, I'm actually stupid, so know that before you read what I write.

As much as I get what you are saying, the United States has continually expanded the rights of corporations to essentially be.. people. So on that they seem to have some legal standing? But then we factor in national security interests, and those override everything.

Without the national security interests I'd be curious which way this would go, but I don't expect, "I deserve to spy on your citizens because I have free speech," to fly..

So in a way I agree with you and in other ways I disagree with you, in the end.. I said nothing, but I did say I am stupid at the top, so really it's your fault for continuing to read this far.

At the very least it's gonna be interesting. I doubt it will spark any introspection for politicians to think, "Hm, maybe we shouldn't have given corporations more rights than people.." Nope. Poison the waters. Contaminate the soil. Torture the animals. Burn the sky. Cook all of humanity.

But hey, line go up.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (6 children)

If Tiktok doesn't deserve to spy on Americans, is it the counterpoint that US big tech does?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Heck no, but conflating two arguments at the same time makes them both unsolvable. I just approach one topic at a time. I'm very much anti-gov-spying. It's fourth amendment stuff.

But I think the constitution is more of a talking point than something American politicians care about these days. They like to use it to say, "Do the thing I like! But wait, stop using it to stop me from stopping the things I don't like!"

It's corruption all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You put forward a couple of different points - I'm not conflating things, just hoping to skip past the constitutional one (which in my opinion is non-sequitur) to address the other. I might have boiled it down to a one-liner, but here's some light further reading/viewing which may help to scratch below the surface of why this corruption as you put is probably happening: https://youtu.be/Fhgm5b8BR0k

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Oh sorry, I didn't mean that to come off as an accusation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/Fhgm5b8BR0k

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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