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Google layoffs: The company plans to set up a new team in Munich, Germany which would act as "cheaper" labour, the report claimed.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Compared to Valley workers, Germans are still cheap. 100k is a very very good salary over here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, but you still have to pay social taxes on top for every worker. That's why salary and labour cost are two different things. And boy is it a difference in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (5 children)

And as far as I've been led to believe, workers in the USA will be bullied into not taking any time off. Germans will take their entitled holidays and use sick leave when they are sick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Workers in the US may not even have sick time. They do make more money though, probably because lots of European tech workers come to the US for better pay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In practice anyone with this salary is likely to have at least 2 weeks + 10 or so federal holidays. It's the retail and factory folks who are hurt most there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vacation time is not sick time. If you want any type of vacation at all, you need to plan ahead of time. Offering only 2 weeks is a joke. If you get sick one day, you lose one week of vacation.

Monitoring and rationing sick time is like limiting bathroom breaks or coffee time. if your job does it, you have a crappy employer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you get sick one day, you lose one week of vacation.

I have never worked anywhere in the United States with a policy like that. It may be your experience but it's certainly not the norm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure they are saying that if you have 10 days PTO and you use one of them when sick, you no longer get a full two weeks' vacation as you'll have an uncovered day. With a full 10 days, I could clock out Friday evening, get on a flight to my vacation destination, catch a return flight the afternoon of the 19th and be back to work on the 20th. With only 9, I either need to work until next Monday and get on the plane that night, or cut my vacation short to fly back in the 16th and work the 17th. You effectively lose up to 3 whole days of downtime on vacation for being unable to work due to illness once a year.

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