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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (60 children)

Is the investigation exhaustive? If these are all the crashes they could find related to the driver assist / self driving features, then it is probably much safer than a human driver. 1000 crashes out of 5M+ Teslas sold the last 5 years is actually a very small amount

I would want an article to try and find the rate of accidents per 100,00, group it by severity, and then compare and contrast that with human caused accidents.

Because while it's clear by now Teslas aren't the perfect self driving machines we were promised, there is no doubt at all that humans are bad drivers.

We lose over 40k people a year to car accidents. And fatal car accidents are rare, so multiple that by like 100 to get the total number of car accidents.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

I was looking up info for another comment and found this site. It's from 2021, but the information seems solid.

https://www.flyingpenguin.com/?p=35819

This table was probably most interesting, unfortunately the formatting doesn't work on mobile, but I think you can make sense of it.

Car 2021 Sales So Far Total Deaths

Tesla Model S 5,155 40

Porsche Taycan 5,367 ZERO

Tesla Model X 6,206 14

Volkswagen ID 6,230 ZERO

Audi e-tron 6,884 ZERO

Nissan Leaf 7,729 2

Ford Mustang Mach-e 12,975 ZERO

Chevrolet Bolt 20,288 1

Tesla Model 3 51,510 87

So many cars with zero deaths compared to Tesla.

It isn't if Tesla's FSD is safer than humans, it's if it's keeping up with the automotive industry in terms of safety features. It seems like they are falling behind (despite what their marketing team claims).

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