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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Full autonomous vehicles, and particularly significant levels of adoption of them are decades away. It's taken roughly 20 years for hybrid vehicles to become "big", and that's after the tech already existed. We still don't even have anywhere close to reliable full autonomous driving.

It usually is much more effective to make plans and changes based off what currently exists rather than anything that isn't absolute immediate future. No reason to say no to the good because you're busy waiting for "perfect".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Full autonomous vehicles, and particularly significant levels of adoption of them are decades away

the only way fully-autonomous vehicles will truly work and work as envisioned, is if user-operated ones are taken off the roads entirely. and yes, that is at least 'decades away'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That's not just "at least decades away;" that's literally impossible. Streets, by definition, will always need to accommodate road users that will never be computerized, such as pedestrians, cyclists, horse-drawn carriages, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"decades" from now, autonomous vehicles will have their own roadways, designed for them and with the infrastructure needed for the tech at that future time.

the streets as we know them today will be for last-mile (literally) transport, pedestrians, bicycles, some forms of public transit, and what not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Maybe, but probably not because where would you put them? We're not going to bulldoze through the street grid again like we did for the freeways and "urban renewal" (read: kicking out the black people) back in the '50s. We learned our lesson about not displacing people like that and passed NEPA to make it extremely difficult to do from now on.

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