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No, I said they are the same old debunked arguments and they are. Ive had this conversation before. It was the same, except your mental gymnastic routine is more awkward and cringe.
It doesnt matter what you call it, its irrelevant. Because america does it, does not excuse anyone else. Its still wrong and this is not a competition which country is the worst.
You said it was the same. Its not. We are talking about the same situation. They are an involved party. Russia violated Minsk 2. They also violated dozens of other agreements that protected and aknowledged the borders of Ukraine. You dont care about that though.
Ive been this road before. There is no evidence possible that you wouldnt do cringey mental gymnastis around.
Thats not what I wrote. You seem to be thinking that is a monolith entity. Its a naive thinking, like you know nothing about international relations.
So what? Who violated it and who violated all the other agreements? The idea that all would be fine if only Ukraine did nothing is laughable. Completely dissociated from reality.
Ukraine wanted what the west has. It didnt want what russia had. Russia has its own propaganda just like everyone else. If you read some books about russian covert activities you might be surprised. But nobody whats what they have.
If ukraine loses there isnt any ukraine left. Ukraine is fighting for some survivial. There is no negotiation possible because its clear Russia doesnt respect any agreements. Ukraine is going to win. The west wouldn't send any weapons if they thought they couldnt. Ukraine has a clear path to victory. They are a nation and they are individuas who can decide if they want to fight or not. Its their call. Your hexbear buddies don't seem to give them any agency. Its degrading and demeaning.
Lol. That is like a foundation of all conspiracy theories: if somebody benefits from something, they must be the cause of it. Thats to funny. I bet you subscribe to other conspiracy theories. What are they? Global warming? Anti wax? It has to be anti wax, most of that crowd went onto supporting russia. Moon landing?
The summer offensive is going slow but steady. Russians can go home. Ukrainians are home and they decide how long to fight.
No they wouldn't. There would be nothing to negotiate. Russia wouldn't negotiate with someone who surrenders. Thats so bizzare you would think so.
That all would be great or something. Its stupid. It wouldn't. Ukraine would disapear. There would be a lot of dead people.
You’re almost there. Don’t forget that the US couples this with new military contracts at home and debt in UA! See, here is one of the issues you have. Its not the reason, its just a side benefit. Causality and causation. This is one of your main problems in the thinking you have. You have a conspiracy way of thinking.
Ahahahahahahahahaha Its funny that you think its funny, because the information you must get to think otherwise must be direct from the Kremlin.
Oh, who ever thinks differenty than you must be diametrically wrong. Lol. Thats lame. All the people that do extensive analisys, that go in depth into how the war is going, how the russian economy is doing, the contracts and aid Ukraine is getting, they all agree. The war might be long, but it Ukraine will win. I haven't found any opinion that would be a thoughtful anaisys and not some oppinion piece that would say otherwise and I look. But true, i dont listen to kids on youtube wearing Z tshirts.
Lol, I dont think you know what appeal to authority is. That doesn't mean any authority has no valid arguments.
It has. Its much darker now. A lot of self pitty. They know things are not going well.
It is about the stockpiles. But you know, stockpiles go bad. Munitions go bad and russia nad north korea are not know for their well management of stockpiles. And north korea is known for many other things.
Love to hear ahistorical Great Man Theory in condescensing lib posts. You know what I meant. You dont have to do jump around this one. Its really boring.
They are on your side. Calling for the west to stop arming Ukraine. They have the exact same arguments you have. So much, that you should like their mouthpiece. Do you understand that? The worst people in the world and you are saying the same thing. I would think long and hard about why that is and if I want to be in that company.
I already have, noumerous times. If you don't want to see it, you wont see it.