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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We need to mandate EV adoption, not rely on consumer demand, the amount of misinformation directed at EVs has been extremely effective. They aren't perfect, but they are a hell of alot bettet than Internal Combustion Engines which spew poison into the environment . . .

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

or yknow... just get rid of car dependency

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

That would be preferable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We need to mandate PT adoption, not rely on carsumer congestion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which can't be done until PT actually can get people places. Only a few cities have that level of service.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

PT can't get people places because of all the cars... (And the underfunding and poor engineering)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is false. Pt can't get places because it doesn't even try. The places where there are a lot of cars we need to do something of course, but the real problem is the long tail of places it doesn't go. I consider less that a bus every 15 minutes not going: nobody who can afford a car has time to waste on such bad service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How are buses supposed to get anywhere when they are blocked by cars?? There's a reason most places (that aren't car dependent) have bus lanes. There's places it doesn't go because there's not enough public transport. And there's not enough public transport because there's no room for it, because places are filled with cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They are not blocked by cars most places they should go. suburbs with no traffic are dense enough to support bus transport with reasonable frequencies, but they don't get it.

There are a few roads where buses are blocked by traffic. However those roads have (or would if the buses would actually go anyplace other than those roads) enough demand that they should have a fully grade separated train on those routes (or often just off those routes and no service at all on the road itself - get the transit closer to where people want to be)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah that’s going to happen, just totally tear down and rebuild a century of car based infrastructure.

EVs are necessary, because even though that should happen, it won’t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I mean they tore down the country based off PT, so they can do the other way around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That will do a lot to get rid of car dependency because most people can't afford an EV and will be forced to walk